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Old 08-16-2017, 02:20 PM   #591
CliffFletcher
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Utterly facepalm worthy.

White Southerners are delusional about the civil war in part because of the civil war memorials lionizing confederate generals. So, the solution is to remove the freakin' statues that help feed the delusion.
I recommended moving the statues up-thread.

What we're talking about now is how to achieve what you and Tinordi say must be done - make the South feel collective guilt over the Civil War, in the same way Germans feel collective guilt over WW2.

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Japan is the south in your analogy.

I mean, I just...what are you trying to say here?
I'm saying you can't make people feel shame if they don't want to feel shame. China, Korea, and others countries and SE Asia have been avidly trying to get Japan to admit its guilt in war crimes for decades, and Japan basically brushes them off. They're not interested in feeling shame or guilt.

You want to finish the job that should have been done during Reconstruction - make the South accept the war guilt for the Civil War, and feel shame over the culture of the antebellum South.

So how are you going to achieve that? What, specifically, are you going to do to change the beliefs and minds of millions of people? Let's hear some actual, tangible proposals, instead of just emoting and thumping your chest over how backward Southerners are.
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