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Originally Posted by GirlySports
I think there are a couple of issue here.
2. But there are a few issues that go farther. Like quotas. Quotas just upset people. For example if a law school has 100 spots and the white guy finishes 101 overall regardless of minority then it's still favoring white guys less but he's has to accept it. But if he's 91st overall but can't get in because they have to let in 20 minorities/low income/women/whatever then he will think he's lost rights. Another issue is that grades is not the only factor. There's GPA and test scores and volunteering and work experience and personality and quotas that make the admission process very subjective and yes if there were no quotas the selector would be very biased.
So for people who believe in #1, that's racism. But for people who believe in #2, that's more of a legitimate beef. The playing field should be equal, and equal means white lose some advantages. But it should not be skewed to far that way.
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Quotas for minorities aren't what keep dude #101 out of an Ivy League school. Legacy students, students whose wealthy parents pay their way in, they are the ones to blame. I'd put good money down that a minority student who makes it into an Ivy League school worked just as hard, if not way harder, than poor #101 there. If you're sad for him, stop giving rich kids entrance over everyone else.
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
So you're in favour of getting rid of all trace of Robert E Lee? Do you support the renaming of Washington and Lee University, the bulldozing of the ancestral Lee house you can visit at the Arlington cemetery? Where are you going to stop?
Also I really don't see how you can apply your logic of applying the morality of the times to Lee and not to the founding fathers, they all had the power to stamp out the civil war before it could fester, they wrote the phrase " all men are created equal " and did basically nothing to apply that to all men.
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There's a huge difference between a separate historical monument and the statue of someone who attempted to preserve slavery remaining on the campus of a state university. They weren't destroying the statue, they're moving it.