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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Anyone criticizing the Hull trade is looking at it with blinders on.
Ramage was an all star defenceman. An all star. Not some bottom pairing plug.
Wamsley was a backup goalie who could play 30 games which we needed. The Marc damour's of the world weren't getting it done
So in order to get an all star defenceman and a well established veteran goalie the flames traded a roster player and a top prospect.
Instead of Hull they could have traded:
Suter (coming off the Calder win)
Niewendyk
Roberts
Fleury
Flames were deep in high quality forward prospects. They had to give up quality to get quality back. Had they kept hull and traded Roberts it's still probably the same discussion.
So it's utter absurdity to include the Hull trade in this discussion every summer.
We added an all star defenceman.
We added a backup goalie who could play 30 + games and hold his own
We had to include a high quality prospect to do so
The other options would also have been the same loss
The young players we kept contributed to the cup win
And ... both acquired players contributed to the cup win
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The emphasis should be on "was an all star defenseman" - that was before he arrived on the Flames. In the 88-89 season Ramage was behind Macinnis, Suter, McCrimmon, Macoun, and probably Murzyn. Yes, he stepped up after Suter was injured and made an important contribution to the Cup win, but he didn't play like an all star in 88 when he joined the Flames, and although he may have provided leadership intangibles, he was definitely not the dominant player they were hoping for when they traded for him.