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Old 07-15-2017, 08:41 PM   #610
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Where did anyone claim he wouldn't have a fair trial?
He didn't get one was the point. The trial is irrelevant though, his crimes had nothing to do with what he sued the government for. Guilty or not his rights needed to be upheld.


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Why are they any more guilty of terrorism than the clowns who make the bombs used in the attacks....you know....like Khadr did?
Ack..I'm not going to get into the whole prove where those bombs were used debate. If those bombs were used in the war in Afghanistan I consider that to be warfare not terrorism. If you believe that any contribution to a terrorist group regardless of what those contributions are or were used for makes the contributor a terrorist you're entitled to your opinion. Let's look at the big picture of that opinion though, he's a terrorist because he made bombs for al Qaeda, ok, the US government funded the creation of al Qaeda, does that make them terrorists too? Since al Qaeda attacked the states does that make their government complicit in treason? (All 9/11 was an inside job conspiracy theories aside)

Circumstances matter, if the argument in response is going to be that the US government at the time had no idea what al Qaeda were or could become and merely thought of them as an aid to fighting the soviets and therefor are not guilty of funding terrorism fine, but how is that any different than Khadr at 15 years old after having been endoctrined and essentially brainwashed by his father since birth contributing to al Qaeda? Do you really believe he was able to see what he was doing was wrong? At that age? Hell, Hitler was able to convince an entire country of educated adult people, that until that point had no ambitions to do so, that getting rid of certain members of society by any means necessary was the key to greatness. They believed it and pushed that agenda believing every step of the way that it was right, even when the world came fighting back.

How some consider this to be a case of him knowing what he was doing was wrong and doing it anyways is just crazy. It doesn't require a psychology degree to know how impressionable children are. Kids to this day grow up with crazy beliefs based on the teachings of their parents. How many people here were brought up believing there was something wrong with gay people, or different races etc?. Most people can grow out of that kind of thinking when their environments and education provide an opportunity for it, but even in the best circumstances some never do. It becomes ingrained in how they think and what they believe to be right or normal. Even those who do break the cycle rarely do so at a young age.
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