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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I can guarantee you'll be dead by the time the idea of the personal vehicle is extinct.
The thing that's important to remember about these technologically based societal shifts is that they happen gradually and depend on the adoption of society. So unless you believe in the coming of some Orwellian state where you're no longer granted freedom of choice in ownership and mobility, and even still that said state is coming quickly, your worries are not based in any relevant reality. The scenarios you're presenting, where you can't take your dogs to the park or whatever, aren't things that are actually worth worrying about.
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I tend to agree with you. I guess it's difficult for you to know what I'm actually responding to. What I'm responding to are all the people that say this will be in full effect by 2030 and it will be utopia. Just trying to point out hurdles, and I guess things that seem pretty silly to me. I'm sure in time all those problems will be solved. The Orwellian state with no freedom will definitely happen because everyone seems have an attitude that people have zero say in anything so you might as just give up and accept it.
Yeah the dog thing was just pointing out how trivial everyone will be when it comes to things they want. You could rchange that idea to a lot of different things, they will all need to be offered.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Sorry, but ride sharing self driving cars ARE a vastly superior form of transportation compared to whatever method you are using by yourself.
As pointed out, having that system in place does not mean you cannot own your own car.
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Autonomous ride sharing is not vastly superior. Obviously it should be much safer.
So that leaves time and convenience vs cost and environmental. Ride sharing itself doesn't save any time, it takes more time. Traffic congestion will be reduced due to fewer accidents. Once the cars are communicating with each other and the roadways are changed then you will see traffic congestion really reduced. The potential for more cars on the road could offset it, at least until the road system is changed. Unemployment might dramatically increases (insurance, gas, oil, mechanics, any driving job), plus a fairly drastic decrease in revenue from driving infractions, who's paying for all these changes? Toll roads, or a new tax of some kind (distance driven?) will absolutely have to be in place. Unless some new industry pops as a result of these new cars (that is very possible), a lot of people will be out of work. Urban sprawl will become much much worse, I don't need to live close to work since I can sleep on the way anyway.
Will it really be cheaper? What will all the costs be? The only way it is cheaper is if you do not own your own car or if owning a car will be incredibly expensive.
If the argument is that every vehicle will be electric anyway then the environmental benefit kind of goes out the window too.
I agree on ownership, I'm arguing against the thought that ride sharing will take over and no one will own a car. I don't think that's realistic in any way. Ride sharing will absolutely increase, and it will be great in every way for a certain segment of the population. That said, these companies could have much greater plans than I realize, and the ride sharing concept could be amazing. Based on what I can see now, it's hard to imagine.
I'm sure that is a very rambly response, and I've not acknowledged a bunch of important facts
. There are some serious positives about autonomous vehicles, I'm just tired of reading how it's all going to be an amazing utiopia. Again, mostly referring to people not owning their own vehicles.