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Old 07-08-2017, 04:06 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV View Post
Well, it's part of it. A bad back, a bad team situation, and domino effect all had something to do with that. The fact that our team moved up in the draft to grab him should tell you that his fall was exaggerated.



"I thought he did a really great job."

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/07/07...-american-game



Just a reminder, and I am as aware as anyone about the risks/limited value of the stat - but Kylington was actually a plus player in the AHL in his 2nd year as a pro. While having a 21 year old rookie partner on an AHL contract with a whopping two points in 56 games(Doetzal). While playing relatively high measured QualityOfCompetition. While still being 19 years old in a league where he would not have been eligible by age if he had ever played a CHL game. While leading his team in defensive scoring.

It's not as if Kylington was a liability for his team. Even though he was the youngest player on it. He had ups and downs like anyone else, but so did Andersson, and Gillies, and to a lesser extent Rittich.

People sometimes forget all the good a skilled player does every time he screws up. We even saw it last year with Gaudreau, he could be having a two point night, but a turnover at the blues and he'd be the goat in a win. Kylington makes mistakes trying to do too much. It's not as easy as telling him to stop trying. He wasn't drafted to be Kris Russell and just wire the puck along the boards every time he got near it. It's a complex position and the team is aware of that.

You have to weigh the good with the bad, not fixate on the bad. It's like how Tre described Mike Smith's puck moving... sometimes you'll facepalm but that doesn't mean you want to cut it out of his game.



And you seem to have confused "not rapidly progressed to sure-fire top pairing D" with "hasn't progressed". He has progressed. But there is progression left to go. It's not as simple as it sounds. Anybody can make the easy play, but there's a fine line between defaulting to it and knowing when it's necessary at high speeds. Or have people already forgotten that even Gio sometimes got himself into trouble as a young player... who was 5-6 years older than Kylington.

If Kylington hadn't progressed since his draft, he would not have gotten Sweden's WJC "best player in the Bronze Medal Game" award, because he simply wasn't good enough to do that in his draft year.

Feel free to show us all where that was ever stated by me...ever.

I will save you time though, because it doesn't exist.

Ive seen far to many like him that can never seem to make the changes necessary to make it as an effective NHLer is all. Some have however, including the captain of this team, so its not like i am writing the kid off.

Andersson is a perfect example. He was rightly criticized for his fitness. He made changes and by all accounts looks to have figured that part out which should mean great things for him and the club moving forward. Kylington simply doesn't have that record yet and in fact seems to be doing much of the same things he was criticized for before he was even drafted.


Just a lot of red flags around him that haven't seen enough change. Doesn't mean he hasn't progressed at all or won't progress in the future. Simply means he is showing signs of not doing what is needed at this point. That, in my estimation, drops him down the list of prospects on this club, which if I am not mistaken what this entire thread is all about.
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