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Originally Posted by rubecube
Here we go again. BASED ON WHAT EVIDENCE?
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Class mobility, what country has more of an opportunity to move up the economic ladder then the US? Your NBC fake news (like that) piece said "it was less likely then many Americans would like to believe". That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it just might not happen as much as some believe. It's a ridiculous statement. That's like me saying it rains less often in Vancouver, then some would like to believe.
Here's why comparing the Scandinavian countries is cherry picking. You are talking about small in both size population and ethnically homogeneous. It didn't have the same social issues to deal with like a country like Canada. We got large populations of First Nations, Quebecois and other Northern European cultures. There's also things like not being involved in ww2 (Sweden). I could go on and on. Most Countries have different historical circumstances that make these comparisons pointless.
Right, so just as I said then. When socialism fails, it's because of socialism. When capitalism fails, it's because of other underlying circumstances.
Where has Capitalism failed?
So if it's a hard comparison to make, then why do you keep asserting it as if it's an objective truth.? You've clearly made the comparison based on something but you can't tell me what that something is, other than that the Soviet-style socialism was a massive failure, and even that is a very basic and ahistorical perspective.
I'm not, I'm saying that Socialism for the most part will always fail given enough time. You can Cherry pick the Scandinavian countries to try to prove your point but it's not a good comparison. A big part of why the US is the richest country the world has ever seen is because of small government and the principles of free market capitalism, that is just a fact and so I guess you can call that an objective truth.
Who in their right mind can say Soviet-style Socialism was anything other then a complete catastrophe and blemish on human history? How many millions of people have to die before you can admit this idea of a collectivist utopia is a bad one.