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Old 07-06-2017, 12:26 PM   #5834
Illuminaughty
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Originally Posted by Biff View Post
So much wrong with YOUR post. The reason unrestrained capitalist states ALWAYS fail, and are forced to change, is because eventually the masses grow weary of the fruits of their labor being increasingly co-opted by their overlords and demand some kind of real participation in the economy beyond just being mindless drones.

Socialist states do NOT always fail. Communist states generally always fail. Progressive socially responsible states that balance their capitalism with tolerance, fairness, and compassion and understand that society moves forward best as a whole, not as a Darwinian exercise, thrive and consistently produce the highest levels of satisfaction for their citizens.

I am more than sick and tired of being told that the left needs to stop being so entitled and robbing the poor producers and that it's really best if we continue to just tolerate and accept the excesses of the monied right. Could the US not just be centrist, like most of the rest of the developed world?
And which unrestrained capitalist States are those? Do you have any examples?

Communism has been an absolute disaster everywhere it has ever been attempted, that's what history shows. Socialism doesn't fare much better.

This idea of a progressive socially responsible State is a nice ideal on paper, too bad it isn't grounded in reality and is not how human beings are wired. You can't give a collective group of people that much power and expect them no to abuse it. Individualism is a much better ideal then collectivism, history has shown that.
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