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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

You have once again just baldly asserted this without providing reasons. You apparently think this is self evident, and if you had the ability to reason logically, you would see that your inability to offer a reason why it's bad should cause you to question your intuition.

If so, you should have been able to answer it easily, and I shouldn't have had to drag it out of you.

Okay, finally, you've provided a reason. I think it's a pretty bad justification because:

1. This implies that if the world were, by pure fluke, majority transgender, it would not be a "defect", because there wouldn't be this sense of isolation. It follows that your judgment that this is a "defect" is contingent on an external factor. However, a "defect" is by its nature inherent, so you've already failed to meet the definition.
2. You say 99% of the world "doesn't have this issue". The obvious question that follows from that is, how many people who share your characteristics does there need to be for something to no longer be a "defect"? 90% of the population is straight - is that enough to make being gay a defect? Approximately 1% of the human population is Inuit. Is that enough to make being Inuit a defect? Where would you draw the line here?
3. What about transgendered people who don't feel a sense of isolation? There are many who do, but also many who don't. Are those transgendered people not "defective"?

This is a problem with society, not a problem inherent to transgendered people - unless you think they're biologically predisposed to killing themselves, and if so, you'd better have some evidence to support that. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. For one thing, suicide rates among gay youth are also higher than average - this would suggest that you also think gays are defective.

I mean, it takes a special sort of illogic to look at a minority group and think, "hmmm, they seem to be disproportionately marginalized, resulting in a higher number of suicides. Rather than addressing the marginalization, let's just eliminate them from the population going forward."

Again, if it's so obvious that being transgendered is the same as being defective, surely you must be able to give better reasons than those.

I would respond point by point but its going to waste my time and yours. We cant even agree on a starting point, that the issue itself is biological. Everything else is a total moot point as this is a non starter for any reasoned debate we would have. I've tried to get this through to you several times but your either unwilling to accept that, or, too stubborn to care.