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Originally Posted by Red Slinger
The stuff that Naga says is always, 100% in support of Israeli policies regardless of what they are. I understand the mentality. Israel is possibly the only nation in the world that has been in a state of existential crisis from the day it was formed. Understandably, Israeli's and Jews around the world that see Israel as "their Nation" are defensive, especially when they are being accused of behaving against neighbors who typically do or try to do much worse to Israel and others.
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Quite right, to be honest. When people also throw in the hateful rhetoric (and ignorance of it's source is no excuse) and don't engage in any type of debate, I jump in. On any subject...
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But even so, it's not an objective viewpoint. So, when Naga "says stuff" some of the stuff he says is accurate and some of it is just blind defensiveness of Israel. When it's the latter he should be called out on it as should others when they defend the despicable actions of other bad actors in the region.
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I am still waiting for quotes when I blindly defend anything. I get called all the names, but there is never any quote. But you are correct nonetheless.
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I don't think there is any question that Israel has some policies regarding Palestinians that should not be considered acceptable in a liberal democracy. Do we hold the Palestinians, Iranians, Saudi's, etc to the same standard? Of course not, they are not liberal democracies. Unfortunately, a lot of Israelis and a lot of Israeli supporters fail to recognize that their blind, stubborn support of Israeli policies like Settlements likely makes life harder for Israelis and the prospect of peace.
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I think when you throw in the state of terrorism surrounding Israel, volatile regimes, and RAMPANT hate due to state instituted racism (not just against Jews as we have seen lately across the middle east), you can begin understanding why they do what they do. Israel has no partner in the region to even honestly negotiate any peace with, and the entire world knows it. If anyone decides to watch any of the Al Quds Day videos, it is all hateful rhetoric that includes the elimination of every Jew in the region.
My point remains, wouldn't standing up against more hatred make more sense then another day of hate? Israel is not going anywhere, period. A day for Muslims to stand together to promote PEACE might be a better idea than throwing Jews into the sea.