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Old 06-21-2017, 09:47 AM   #5336
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I do agree with this, though I think the solution is that the Democratic party gets its act together and decides what it stands for. Are you the party of Sanders and Ellison or the party of Perez and Obama? Trying to be both is what's causing the splintering.
But this doesn't really apply lock-step for all democrats, all districts, etc. The message needs to be bottom up--you want progressives, NY, California? Vote in progressive senators, representatives. At the local level, idealism can be a powerful tool. At the same time, a progressive candidate who could clean up in Massachusetts is not going to do well in even a blue county in Georgia.

At the federal level, you need a candidate who appeals to as many of the 300 million+ people in the country as possible. That's where your centrists come in. Idealism is wonderful, but it has to be tempered by some grasp of reality and awareness of the world around you, and the Bernie or Bust types are doing more harm than good because they refuse to see the forest for the trees. You can't expect a country where half the voters think the minimum wage should be abolished to jump for joy at a candidate wanting to double that wage. It can't be all or nothing, you have to compromise at some point.



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I'm confused because now it sounds again like you're arguing for the Democrats to do likewise and mimic the GOP model, after saying earlier that they shouldn't emulate it.
Literally no one is suggesting that you pick the worst parts of the Democratic party and rally behind them, which is what the GOP has done. The suggestion is that you rally behind the candidate most likely to win elections, be it at the local, state or federal level. But the main message needs to be that even if a democrat isn't perfect, rally behind the best option, because it sure as hell isn't going to be whatever tea party disaster the GOP is putting out there.

Democrats are so busy fighting over semantics that they don't realize they're giving the GOP the win. It's like complaining that Ossoff wasn't progressive enough, meanwhile the other option is a woman who wants to take adoption rights from gay couples and doesn't believe in a living wage. Stop fighting tiny battles amongst yourselves and look at the big picture.
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