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Originally Posted by ResAlien
No it's not a positive but it is a reality. Not that the Democrats should emulate then but I'm pointing out that the splintering of the Democrat party vs the homogenous nature of the Republican party is one of the reasons we will continue to lose.
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I do agree with this, though I think the solution is that the Democratic party gets its act together and decides what it stands for. Are you the party of Sanders and Ellison or the party of Perez and Obama? Trying to be both is what's causing the splintering.
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Republicans care about one thing: winning. They understand it's a binary system. One of two parties has to win.
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And it's twisted them into a knot that they can't untie, which now looks like it might be a death knell. Or at least something that requires a reboot. The party is now being held hostage by not just its worst elements but humanity's.
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What's better: Don wins and we are in the disaster we see now or calm down the Tea Party like rhetoric, get your party elected to the executive office, and then work towards more progressive goals? Or do you think the Android like nature of the democratic party will win over the Apple like unity of the Republican party? In the end theory is great but practicality and reality have to set in eventually.
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I'm confused because now it sounds again like you're arguing for the Democrats to do likewise and mimic the GOP model, after saying earlier that they shouldn't emulate it.
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
I wonder what would happen if the reverse was true, and someone like Bernie Sanders won a nomination. The far-left voters would come out in force, but I would bet the more moderate voters would still vote for Sanders in say a Trump v Sanders election. I don't agree with a whole lot of Sanders proposals, but I don't think I would hesitate to vote for him against someone like Trump. They would surely lose some independents, but it may be a winning formula to assume that the moderate democrats will be on your side no matter what, and go with the further left candidate.
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Against Trump, I'd like to hope so, but I'm not that convinced, because he'd be labelled a commie. Plus, hopefully it won't always be Trumps. Against Rubio (or Romney or McCain) Sanders would get obliterated.