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Old 06-20-2017, 10:36 AM   #3359
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen View Post
Wait, you were "thanking" people in the "Another Teacher Sex Scandal" who were arguing that we should hold up on calling a teacher a pervert after he was charged for sexual assaulting his 16 year old student.
I thanked posts that said you were off the edge a little bit. I thought you made some good points, but you also made some bad posts in that thread (no offence).

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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
That isn't "spin". It's a relevant moral distinction - six year olds have no agency, 16 year olds have some. Agency, the ability to distinguish right from wrong and make a choice about how you're going to behave, obviously matters when assessing the right and wrong of a situation. The fact that you're even arguing something so completely uncontroversial... just... why? That's not a rhetorical question.

Ironically, attempting to bring up child rapists and dirty teachers in the context of a conversation about gun deaths is quintessential "spin".
Maybe you should figure out what spin is.

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In public relations and politics, spin is a form of propaganda, achieved through providing a biased interpretation of an event or campaigning to persuade public opinion in favor or against some organization or public figure.
"1300 kid deaths, but some are worse than others, so 1300 kids isn't accurate, because kids is too general and agency and maybe some were in gangs." = Spin

I'm not above it, so sure, call the comment about it being the same line used by child rapists and in teacher sex scandals "spin" but it's a true statement.

1300 kids is 1300 kids. Spin it however, but 1300 children aged 0-17 die every year. That seems like all you need to know.
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