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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
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The main difference between the Chatelaine survey and the Ipsos one I posted (the Chatelaine is sampling from a much narrower selection of women, sampling only one generation, and is a couple years old but otherwise the methodology looks fine), is that the Ipsos one defined what they meant by the term ("someone who advocates and supports equal opportunities for women") as part of the question. The Chatelaine one leaves seems to leave it open to interpretation (I can't find the exact wording), which seemingly scares people off from adopting the label. The version of feminism that you, in this thread, are attempting to use as your definition of modern feminism is the definition that scares people away from identifying with it. It is also likely the definition with which fewest people relate. But if we give it a reasonable definition, then people are happy to accept the label. Stop branding it as a marxist political movement or other narrow, non-representative definitions, and the number of women (and men) who identify as feminist will increase.
You did qualify that definition that you were speaking specifically about feminism as a political movement, but most men's rights arguments don't articulate that difference; they broadly paint feminism as negative and feminists as their opponents, and since most people accept the idea of feminism as actively supporting equal opportunities for women, it comes across that men's rights are against equal opportunities for women.
Again, all of which is separate from the idea that men's health needs are important and need addressing (and I'm partly to blame for derailing this thread away from that discussion).