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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
What a joke. Hey Johnny, where the hell do you think these yahoos get their ideas??? They come from the think tanks. That's what these bodies do. Dream up ideas on how to deal with issues. Then they get a politician to sponsor the idea and promote it as their own pet project. Meanwhile the think tank provides any supporting work required to make the idea come to fruition. The guys doing the face time don't hatch these plans, they are the talking heads that get them some credibility in the political arena. I can't believe you think that these guys dream this stuff up themselves! Hilarious!!!
Oh, and its also damn comical when YOU say don't let the facts get in the way. YOU have completely ignored the FACT that this is a regional problem, NOT an American one. REGIONAL stability is not something that can be enforced at the end of a gun, nor at the end of policy that the people of the region do not believe in. The countries of the region want NOTHING to do with this lame plan and have stated as much. Bush has stated he wants nothing to do with this. THOSE are the facts. Its been pointed out by multiple people. You're the only one claiming otherwise. That makes you the "someone", and the butt of the joke (as usual).
BTW, I'm still waiting for you to answer the basic questions that sink your "heroic plan", oh Artless Dodger. When can we expect a brilliant destruction of those points using your air tight framework of peace in Iraq and stability in the region?
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The countries have stated they oppose the Baker plan --An outright LIE and beyond stupid. Bush hasn't received the Baker plan --How dense are you?
It's a regional problem --Yeah sure Lanny and the Americans aren't part of the problem or won't be part of the solution. Like they weren't in the Balkans I suppose.
You would make a brillant politician. I can see your first interview. Ahhh that idiot Obama and that dufus Holbrooke along with that bozo Baker and his think tank should just leave the decision on whether American troops leave IRAQ to the Syrians and the Iraquis. You would be laughed off Capitol Hill and dismissed as an idiot by every American politician from every political persuasion alive in the country.
Facts :
1. Countries have never said zilch about the Baker plan.
2. Bush has never had the Baker plan presented to him.
3. Americans will be making up their own minds about American troops.
Your rubbish that there is known opposition to the Baker plan is of course unfactual and unprovable as it dosen't exist. Your knowledge that Bush is against the Baker plan is as per usual unfactual and unprovable. Your idea that Americans will give the decision over what to do with American troops and policy over to the Iranians and Syrians is not only unfactual and unprovable but ridiculous.
Meanwhile that the Baker plan was called for by Congress --FACT.
That it has bi-partisan support with a growing number of movers and skakers on board --FACT.
Face it. You have nothing but BS to offer. You can't offer a single substantiated fact about the Baker plan. NOT ONE!!!!