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Old 06-08-2017, 11:21 AM   #221
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But of course it's crucially important to our moral reaction, as well as to our practical law enforcement response. Depending on the motivations, we can either expect that it's not ever going to happen again (or won't happen frequently; there aren't a lot of people out there who think trees can tell them to do things) or that it almost certainly will.
That's what I mean; we seem to want to expect it to be in the never happen again category when it's more likely to be in the certainly will.

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So the whole tree thing was a bit of a red herring I guess? I'm just still not clear how it's related to your point, but maybe it wasn't crucial to what you were saying.
It wasn't sorry, it was just a way to say other "typical" murders; I don't understand why anyone murders anyone, but somehow some chain of events and thoughts led them to the conclusion that the best thing to do at that moment in time was to kill a bunch of people. Their inner world must be radically different.

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I think that there's a similar sort of expectation in the two realms - that is, I don't really think that anyone expects that we'll be able to completely eliminate all terrorist activity any more than they think we'll eliminate murder. But where there are apparent options to reduce harm, people have an expectation that those options will be looked at and if thought appropriate, implemented. I don't see a big difference here.
I'd like to agree but I think the effectiveness and popularity of anti-other politics and how these events are responded to makes me think that it's not there yet. The difference between "work with Muslim communities" and "OMG you liberals hate america because you won't let Trump have his ban".

But yes I think you get what I'm saying the public response and perception should be.
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