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Old 06-05-2017, 03:40 PM   #112
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814 View Post
Religious courts should be outlawed. Full stop. Laws that govern your society are legislated by elected representatives, discussed in an open forum, and rejected or accepted on their merits.

Tribunals or courts outside the system inherently undermine it. We have lots of avenues to pursue disagreements in western cultures.

And Christian influence on our Charter is one thing - I can leave Canada, marry an Indonesian, say ####ty things about Canada, renounce my citizenship, be a victim of sexual assault, lots of things that under Sharia law would be forbidden.

Separation of church and state is there for a reason.
Again, Sharia courts and tribunals are completely separate from the legal system in western society, and many Muslims believe as you do (that Sharia should not influence legal code or adhere to non-Muslims). I don't mean to shock your system, but there are hundreds of non-binding codes of conduct and tribunal systems outside of the law in Canada. Sharia doesn't not automatically undermine the legal system and the tribunals generally seek to answer the question of whether something is good in the eyes of god. The problem is: some are being misused, which (instead of an outright ban) means that they need to be more transparent, as using Sharia to undermine the law goes against both the teachings of progressive Islam and the legal system itself.

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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
Sharia law cannot and will not ever mix with western society, Islam needs a reformation away from this garbage or this segregation and violence will never end.

Anyone who wants to practice this trash needs to move back to the middle east.
Except it does now, with pretty great success for the majority in western society, while they reform Islam. So... you're a bit late to the party if you don't think there aren't liberal practicing Muslims who mix Sharia with western society quite nicely.

Sorry, I think peaceful, loving, liberal people who use Sharia as their guide belong in Canada a lot more than bigoted, racist white nationalists. Practice that trash somewhere else. In Canada, we respect other people's freedoms and progressive values. I know countless Muslims that represent Canada beautifully, but I don't know a single racist or bigot that does so.

Islam is a religion, like many others, where the progressive members can be wonderful and open people and in the West those members are numerous. There is no such thing as a wonderful, progressive member or supporter of a hate group. So before you make claims about who belongs here, ask yourself if you do, Snuff.
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