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Old 06-04-2017, 11:27 PM   #29
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This statement is such a complete obfuscation of reality and such a shameful abandonment of women other oppressed groups in so many countries who don't have the freedoms we should want for everyone. .

We should recognize that and applaud those progressive Muslims who endorse that effort for other members of their communities. We can start by not obfuscating or ignoring their project, acting as if all you have to do is read the religious texts to discover that Sharia is some tolerant doctrine of love and virtue.
That seems like a pretty big emotional leap. It sounds like you're talking about Islamic Family law interchangeably at certain points here.

Your plea to recognise and applaud progressive Muslims seems to be completely hollow or contradictory to your first paragraph. How do you square that plea with your condemnation of what many Muslims (and ALL progressive Muslims) believe Sharia to be? You are aware that there is not a single practicing Muslim that doesn't adhere to Sharia, correct? "Progressive" or otherwise, if you're Muslim, you adhere to Sharia in some form.

The path to peace isn't eliminating Islam. Christianity didn't find relative peace by eliminating it. The path is holding up the more liberal, virtuous interpretations and celebrating the progressives who preach it. Not calling those progressive interpretations (held by many, many western followers of Islam) "obfuscation of reality" and "shameful."

Shaming religious people who work hard to celebrate and promote liberal interpretations of their texts seems completely backwards.

EDIT: Maybe I can see you having misenterpretted my previous post as saying "Sharia is wonderful and cannot be negatively interpreted by horrible people" which might mean you think I'm actually stupid, but if so I'll clarify: to many Muslims the word over, especially prominent in Western countries, Sharia is "living the good life," a moral guide that celebrates living a positive and peaceful life. This is true, and is why claims like "Sharia is evil" and "We should ban Sharia" are ignorant drivel. Plenty of religious texts say some pretty insane things, so let's celebrate those that interpret the teaching in a modern liberal fashion and use religion for good, not throw out blanket bans and start shaming those people.

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