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Old 06-04-2017, 01:10 AM   #445
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Originally Posted by Zulu29 View Post

What exactly are we doing that's "working"? What is deterring islamic terrorists from their goals?
Without the security screenings we now do, undoubtedly more attacks would've occured. Counter terrorism units are stopping plots all the time. Law enforcement outreach has helped us keep tabs on known extremists and intelligence agencies are working internationally with each other to prevent attacks.

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Awareness is vitally important to the citizenry, are you proposing we zombie walk with out collective heads in the sand? No, the public must be made aware of this so that they can collectively decide on how to proceed. Don't legislate it? The state needs the power to collec intelligence in order to conduct pre-emptive raids/disruption for public safety.

Ban immigration? Of course not, but have strict screening and veracity checks on new Canadians. Bomb innocent Syrian human shields? Who suggested that? Laying on the hyperbole nice and thick.

You can't scare people away from these acts of terror, you're right, but you can absolutely hamstring their ability to do so.
We already have extremely strict "vetting". You're making assumptions that this isn't already happening. My "bombing human shields" hyperbole was intentionally to point out the impossible case of defeating ISIS with overwhelming force, not to paint a strawman.


Here's the question that proves my point:

How would you hamstring these guys' ability to drive a car and have a knife in a country they're a citizen in?
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