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Old 05-28-2017, 07:55 PM   #334
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Okay, let's set aside surveys, since it's clear you won't believe any that challenge your ideological narrative.

Are you aware of what's going on Indonesia right now? The religious violence against non-Muslims? The public flogging of homosexuals? The institution of Sharia law in Aceh province, and growing calls for it elsewhere in the country? The increasing profile of ISIS? None of this concerns you?
ideological? Not really.

I simply don't subscribe to the idea that a simple question, without context, can be used to extrapolate to a wider range of the population... while pew is a respected institution, there's a lot more information in each of those surveys, aside from just those particular questions that were cherry picked from the 1000 people in each country surveyed...

i think the root causes are still things that need to be addressed, absolutely. I think the question that triggered the initial conversation is whether there is something inherently negative in that religion, or simply a small fraction using it for their own goals.

I am an agnostic, but know some muslims... i certainly don't see or hear them talking about isil in any positive way...More like anger and being very pissed off at them for doing what they are doing
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