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Old 05-24-2017, 10:21 AM   #181
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
So once we've identified that a group of people or a culture are misogynist, we stop talking about it? From where I stand, it doesn't like that's the case.

And if the Klan did lynch a man in rural Mississippi tomorrow, I expect it would provoke an avalanche of commentary about racism and the culture that fostered it.
I think that they aren't as simplistic of motives, which makes it ironic when people like Matata complain about a lack of nuance, when boiling it down to misogyny is stripping the act of all other layers.

If a Klan member hangs someone of colour, I think we'd cry racism, because the primary (and possibly solitary motivation) is racism. When ISIS bombs an Ariana Grande concert, misogyny is one of the many factors that weigh in and I would argue it's not even the primary or secondary one. So to boil it down as an issue of misogyny, which is just a minor part of the issue, lacks nuance and harms credibility imo.

I see the argument that an attack on a concert put on by a young, overtly sexualised and "free" American woman is at least partially motivated by misogyny, but I don't see it as the primary factor.

I agree that we shouldn't stop talking about these things just because they're obvious, but I'm not sure we need to be upset when every one of the things ISIS hates doesn't make every headline after every attack. And I think the comparing ISIS attacks and other incidences where the "moral injustice" is plainly obvious is weak.
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