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Old 05-23-2017, 01:49 PM   #136
CliffFletcher
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I don't think it is accurate to characterize that Islam has not gone through a reformation, nor is it accurate to suggest that the lack of reformation has made the religion more violent. The religious wars following the Protestant reformation were the bloodiest conflicts europe had ever seen until the first and second world war.
Which is why I specified Reformation and Enlightenment. The West used the ideals of reason and liberty cultivated in the Enlightenment to reconcile private faith and public secularism. Christians learned that their good book took a back seat to the laws of the state. That's why even fundamentalist Christians in the U.S. fight their battles in the courts and at the ballot box, instead of in the streets with grenades and public executions. They accept that the Constitution has primacy over the Bible.

Most Muslims in the world do not accept the primacy of the state or of secular law. That is a massive problem - likely an insurmountable barrier to Muslim-majority states becoming prosperous, liberal democracies.
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