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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I don't really agree with this theory at all.
For one, Islam isn't one religion. There are various sects, and some of them hate one another more than the other religions. They are literally committing genocide against other Islamic sects around the world.
What I see is a destabilized part of the world (thanks to years of interference from the west - mainly the USA and Britain) who keep that part of the world destabilized in order to have more control. There is a long history stemming from the 1st world war of the west making deals with Arabs for support, and then turning away from those deals once they get what they want. You have generations that have grown in a system of instability and violence. A system where dictators and radical clerics control the nation. Where people are bereft of many freedoms. On top of this, what is there to hope for in the future? How many people have lost relatives?
There are suicide bombers in China as well (they have also had cars driving into crowds in China) and of course Russia has also had their share of terrorism. There are no borders.
Propagandists swoop in, give the people hope in the form of religion, but teach them a twisted, hateful version. It is not difficult to show them that the west has stolen their freedom, and they start encouraging people to lash out. Then they fuel the dream of an Islamic State that (once again, is again corrupted by what they want to gain) is free from outside influences (namely people coming in and stealing their resources and futures), and how they will finally live in a sort of paradise.
Meanwhile, how much oil are these leaders selling on the black market to KNOWING nations, making them more rich and powerful, and with the help of other nation that are not directly involved in the conflict, are able to perpetuate this cycle.
It is an age old issue - the disenfranchised get abused, someone comes in with a rallying cry of sorts, and because there is literally nothing else they can do to better themselves, they fall in line slowly until they are on the front lines with rallying cries of their own trying to convert more and more people to their cause.
This is going to take generations to figure out. Generations of death and destruction to overcome now. I don't know how to fix it, but the end game is all about power and influence, and of course the good old accumulation of wealth. ISIS is making a lot of money selling oil, embargoes be damned. ISIS buys a lot of weapons, embargoes be damned.
Now you have victims on both sides - the people in the west who are victims of these heinous acts of terrorism, and the people caught up and trapped in ISIS controlled lands who are not a part of their ideology.
This has nothing to do with religion. Anyone that looks at this as a "Muslim issue" is not looking deep enough. Monsters are using the tools at their disposal in order to control a population. If there was no religion, it would quickly move onto another tool (and for many, they don't follow because of religion, but the quality of life that it can afford, or the simply the satisfaction of striking back in any way they can).
Humans have a long history of using each other, killing each other, raping each other, and stealing from one another. Humans have a long history of genocide. Humans have a long history of doing the very worst imaginable to one another, and they don't need and have never needed religion to do so. This has always been more political than religious, but it is wrapped-up in a nice religious package that people find easier to identify.
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Manchester tonight, and everywhere else that you find monsters brutalizing the innocent. It feels like the only way this is ever going to stop is if aliens come down and slay these damn monsters and weed them out of our gene pool. The propensity for people to act in such a cold, heartless fashion everywhere you look is something that absolutely horrifies me at times, and moments like today's bombing brings that right up to the surface.
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So you don't agree with my theory but you do.
Look its easy to blame the West and they need to take a big bite of a blame sandwich, but it goes far beyond that. Groups like ISIS and Al Queda are all about charismatic leaders who want to acquire power and wealth.
ISIS their leaders wanted to form a caliphate, their own nation of basically slaves, kept in line by terror and a f'd up interpretation of their religion.
Al Quaeda wanted to basically purify their holy lands, and not for all of Islam, but the more radical interpretation,
Leadership in these groups is no different then Hitler or Stalin or Mao with the exception that they didn't have a country to to subvert, they had a hypothetical, a religion without borders.
So yeah, their message was blame the West and strike back from our umbrella of righteousness. But I'm pretty convinced that even without interference from the West we would have seen the rise of groups like this anyways.