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Old 05-17-2017, 10:59 AM   #3363
accord1999
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This is not an excusal here. You're assuming precident with vague accusations
I assuming reality and geopolitics. Ultimately even good guys have to work with bad guys to get things done, and the US has to work with Russia with ISIS, Iran nuclear, maybe North Korea, etc. And that if the US discovers some intelligence that may threaten Russian civilian lives and property, that they pass it on to the Russians and that the Russians do the same for the US.

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This does not mean that is either a) wise to divulge something you felt was so strongly secret you didn't divulge too allies, or b) wise to divulge in a boast without having been part of a planned disclosure.

It was specifically reported they haven't shared with allies. It seems to me you are picking and choosing which parts of the multiple reports your believing to for your interpretation
The main WaPo and NYT reports only say:

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He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.
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The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials
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In fact, the current official said that Mr. Trump shared granular details of the intelligence with the Russians. Among the details the president shared was the city in Syria where the ally picked up information about the plot, though Mr. Trump is not believed to have disclosed that the intelligence came from a Middle Eastern ally or precisely how it was gathered.
But in many regards, the US has already publicly announced many of these details from March 31:

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U.S. intelligence officials believe ISIS and other terror groups have found a way to hide powerful explosives in electronic devices such as laptops. Intelligence officials also suggest that terrorists have stolen airport screening devices to learn how to conceal these bombs, finding ways to place them on commercial airliners undetected.
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Sean Spicer said, “Elevated intelligence that we’re aware of indicates that terrorist groups continue to target commercial aviation and are aggressive in pursuing innovative methods to undertake their attacks to include smuggling an explosive device in various consumer objects.”
Even the city:

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Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend said, “There’s an imperative to get isolation in place around Raqqa because our intelligence feeds tell us that there is significant external operations attacks planning going on emanating centralized in Raqqa.”
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The media isn't blameless, but your suggesting the President was not only acting with good intentions, but the correct one as well. Strange take to be sure
If McMaster is correct when he said that "the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.", I don't see much blame on Trump, unless Raqqa was a decoy and Trump told the Russians the real city.

On the other hand, virtually all of the new information that we know of so far came from the media leaks. That's why I blame the media.

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