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Originally Posted by GGG
You are just Wrong here in an economic sense.
We have been losing jobs since the invention of Agriculture. Hunter and Gateherers used to spend 100% of their time trying to survive. Then you got Agriculture which gave people free time, then in that free time some people studied and your invented creating better tools which further increased efficiencies and eliminated jobs. These jobs are never all replaced, if they were all replaced. We went from spending every waking hour trying to survive to spending 8, 5 days a week with paid vacations. This was all made possible by efficiency that reduced the total number of required labour hours to keep society running.
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That's quite the oversimplification. Hunters and gatherers fended for themselves, the concept of an economy was to basically raid your neighbors camp or make trade. When agriculture started, it gave people an option to either continue hunting and gathering or raiding on their own or to trade/purchase. This lead to people continuing to innovate in an effort to have a form of trade value. The current dilemma is that jobs created through modern innovation are being or will be greatly outpaced by jobs replaced through modern innovation.
A 40 hour work week was not made possible by efficiencies. The reason workers went from a 12-16 hour/day 6 day/week work schedule was because workers fought for it. I can't even imagine what would convince you to suggest otherwise.
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It's obvious 3 is wrong, the issue becomes how do you distribute wealth and labour in a world where there is a surplus of wealth and anshortage of demand for labour. The answer is not fake jobs for everyone
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A guaranteed wage is also not the answer, this isn't about extremes, it's about being realistic about what options we have.