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Originally Posted by jammies

So you claim, but all you seem to talk about for solutions is the City doing other than they've already done, and this after the City has gone far beyond what CSEC has done, in a shorter period of time.

All I seem to talk about is the city doing other than what they're doing? Not sure what you mean there. haven't spoken much about the city, but disappointment with the mayor's attitude.

I wish they would have countered in some way and not just said nope, but that's just me.

Originally Posted by jammies

The only way someone could be "equally disappointed" is if that person has a huge bias towards the side that is pretty clearly bungled their way along for the last decade. Other than an amateur-hour presentation and some vague threats, what have CSEC and Ken King done over the last ten years? That's a far more egregious failure than the mayor being adversarial for a few months.

This kind of thinking has always bugged me. You're applying your filter to what I think and telling me I'm pretty much wrong for thinking differently. That's not all that constructive.

I think they're both making a mess of things, I can't believe how many people feel the need to break that down and tell me I have a bias or I'm tinted or simply wrong for thinking these two guys have both let the city down.

Seems there's more a bias in not being able to let something like that go then the other way around.

Originally Posted by jammies

If you want naive, look at the guy who doesn't see King trying to play the political game first, and failing because he picked the wrong guy to try to play hardball with. Nenshi loves conflict, not knowing that in advance is yet another inexcusable failure on CSEC's part, and shows yet again which party to any potential deal is flailing around aimlessly with incompetence at the head.

And now I'm naive?

This pro city side has to take a deep breath and realize there are no saints in this chaos. I don't like how Ken King has presented this at all, and I've said that. I wonder how much he made up along the way and if he's in any hot water with team ownership, or if this honestly the way they thought they should set out.

But Nenshi has had a quite a year of arrogance when you take Uber and the "just math" insult and add it to his handlings of the building.

I wish we could bounce both of them and start over with two new leaders.