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Old 05-14-2017, 11:27 AM   #2992
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A lot of people liked what he had to say.

Also, the longer Sanders is around to communicate his message, the more popular he becomes across demographics, despite the fact that many of his ardent fans expressed outrage and a sense of betrayal when he endorsed Hillary. As mentioned earlier, according to an April poll he is the most liked political figure in the U.S. now. The reason the Democratic party involves him in so many events is that he's by far the most popular figure they have.

Here some of the data from that poll:





We'll never know what would have happened. It's all speculation. We can only say what did happen, and not even all of that is entirely transparent.
I appreciate what you are saying and I agree that the exercise of projecting 'What ifs" will never result in agreement as there is no way of actually proving either stance...

the one thing i would add though, is that using polling from April 2017 on Bernie's current popularity and correlating that back to November 2016 as a way of providing some foundation that Bernie would be backed by moderate GOP and/or those who weren't supportive of Trump is a bit of a stretch....

WRT to democratic support, seems to be mainly a case of buyer's remorse to me... the Democratic delegates had every chance to choose Bernie as their nominee, just as the GOP did with Trump, despite the fact Trump had zero backing from the GOP establishment... I would argue Bernie had more support and certainly respect, from the Democratic establishment than what Trump received from the GOP

Lack of GOP Establishment support did not stop Trump from gaining the party's nomination because his message resonated with the broader base... Bernie's did not - he wasn't the nominee selected the Democratic Establishment, nor was he selected by their base.

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