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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
We've been through this already. His numbers dipped in 2014/15 but he still won 40 games in the regular season and then carried his team all the way to the Finals with Conn Smythe caliber numbers.
If that's not elite to you then we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this (which I thought we already did)
Everybody talks about Kipper like he was an elite goalie, which he was. But just like every elite goalie their numbers varied from seasons to season. No goalie puts up .920+ every year except for Carey Price, and I would bet even he will have a down year here and there over the next handful.
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It's not about agreeing to disagree on the definition of elite. It's that he's played 4 seasons as a starter and two of them have been below average to bad. There are plenty of good goalies who put up an amazing season or two, that doesn't make them elite. He needs to do more to prove he is who you say he is, because he flat out isn't there yet.
It's about sample size. His "elite" one is incredibly small. It looks flat out stupid to continue excusing or erasing 50% of his career to fit a narrative.