[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

What? I suppose there does need to be a clearly defined middle. I think it's pretty clear that there is currently more government regulation economically then in Regans time. Politics has continually been moving further to the left as a whole on the spectrum since as well.

You are just so wrong on pretty everything you espouse. You buy into so many fallacies promoted by conservative dogma. Regan [sic] was this patron saint of all things conservative. He was a small government conservative that single handedly defeated communism! That narrative of "The Great Leader" is one that makes the North Koreans green with envy; spinning a story so detached from reality it is amazing anyone buys it. Reagan was responsible for the greatest expansion in American government in the history or the country. He was responsible for the greatest expansion in debt as well, and at astronomical interest rates. Reagan was a cut-and-run, negotiate-with-terrorists, big-spending, government-expanding conservative. But the only thing that really matters there is the last word. Reagan was a conservative, and for that reason he is a saint. He cut taxes on the rich and saddled that debt onto the middle class and poor, and for that he is remembered fondly, and a great mythos has been developed around him. Since Reagan the political center point has continued a continued a rapid move to the right, not the left, and the country suffers with each step.

It is pretty obvious that the number of left leaning media outnumbers that of the right.

When you're standing in the Pacific ocean and staring into the sun, pretty well everything else in the country is to your left. When you're so far right that Breitbart is your only trustworthy source of information, everything appears left.

The reality is that the media is neutral. If they appear to be left leaning it is only because most of the people who work in the industry were trained in journalism, a liberal art. Journalism relies heavily on facts, which are again tied to the sciences, which to the right are nothing more than leftist voodoo. Has it ever struck you that possibly your views are so extreme that every thing else just appears to be to your left?

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

We pay more taxes now in all classes. Is there more government regulations in place now or during Regans era?

Do you actually just repeat these mindless tropes rather than fact checking them first? I mean, they are just so easy to destroy.

http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/

http://theweek.com/articles/469889/d...resident-obama

Military spending should be debatable, I know it's portrayed as a right wing philosophy but it requires tax dollars, small government shouldn't have a need for a large military. Leftist States spend large sums of money on military also, so you can't say that's just a right wing thing.

Except it is a RW philosophy. Every conservative that has come into office has been big into government expansion, mostly through the military and expansion of the military budget. You can try and argue that leftists spend large sums of money on defense as well, but when the United States spends more than the next seven (that number used to be the next twenty nations until the recent renewal of the arms race) you can't use that tired narrative as a defense.

Regulation means government oversight and entitlements. We see the government pass more legislation then we see them get rid of right?

No, regulation has nothing to do with entitlements. Also, you're ####ing right I'm owed those entitlements. I pay into them as an investment in my future and as a safety net in the event of unforeseen circumstances. They owe me that money! Or do you pay into your RSSPs and insurance policies not expecting them to be there in the future when you need them? Man, how pissed would you be if you got into a wreck and your insurance company decided they weren't going to pay out anything, in essence stealing your money. Worse, how would you feel if when you arrived at the hospital they turned you away and you were told your insurance wasn't accepted. Then, to pay for your care you go to dip into those RRSPs only to find that you don't have any money in them because your investment broker made off with them to pay for his yacht in the Caymans?

I was asking what definition of middle ground should we use? The Bolsheviks are almost more right then any political party in Canada, Socialism isn't it awesome!

Hey man, feel free to pick your ass up and move to Zimbabwe where there are no controls on anything and you survive off of what you earn. No support from anyone or anything. Just good old fashioned capitalism at work.

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

I said some of it is fair. I know this hard for you to understand, I'm not a Trump fan, he's terrible. The only pragmatic decision in my opinion was to vote for him over Hillary, not that he was a good candidate but she was demonstrably worse. I think both parties suck but the good cop image the Dems try to portray is such garbage, they are the party of division. Break everything down to Race, Religion, Sex, Gender, Class whatever they can to divide and then pretend they care, and people like you fall for it.

Riiiiiight. Like it was the left that started the culture wars. I forget, who was it that solid his soul to the Moral Majority to get elected?