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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
Couldn't have said it better myself. It's a weird feeling when you have politically identified with the left for years, yet people who are now vocally on the left are completely unidentifiable as having anything to do with liberal principles.
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The identarian left hates liberal principles. They're a mirror image of the authoritarian right.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I think my issue is that, as sort of stated above, old liberals hold so strongly to the idea that their ideology is pure and perfect that they end up in this weird state where they're more scared of the left than the right. They're more scared of the people that took liberal values and distorted them further left than they are of people who are opposed even to the idea of a liberal at their core, which is hilarious.
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Liberals aren't moderate leftists. Liberals are people who resist authoritarianism and conformity. Who defend the rights of people to be criticial and offensive. Who rankle at anyone trying to preach moral conformity. A liberal society is one that concerns itself with protecting a diversity of values and speech as a safeguard against really bad outcomes.
Up until recently, that meant running afoul of the authoritarian scolds of the right. Now it's the regressive left who are the authoritarian scolds, who will use whatever tools they can get their hands on to enforce their notions of ideal behaviour, and who see diversity of opinions and values as 'problematic'.
We live in insecure times, where more and more people are looking for simple answers to complex questions, and are willing to trade away freedom to enforce their own values. Some are looking to the authoritarian right. Some are looking to the authoritarian left. Both are hostile to liberalism.