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Originally Posted by Beatle17
Where do these numbers come from? Oh, that's right, the city did some of their own numbers and included infrastructure that has nothing to do with the direct project plus financing costs that the CalgaryNext proposal would pay back as they pay back the CRL.
What everyone needs to get their heads around is that the city will need to spend this money even if there is no project that happens. Because Bronconnier and his band of idiots (including the incompetent Joe Ceci our wonderful NDP Finance Minister) bought the creosote lands at a discount, and agreed that they would be responsible for cleanup, this land is the responsibility of the city. NO developer will ever pay to purchase the land without the cleanup being done.
As a long time citizen I hope they get something worked out to get a project done. What I hope is that the Flames build their own arena and tell the city to build their own fieldhouse (which we all know will never be done). I just wish the conversation was more fact based and less emotional based.
In every major arena/facility project I have researched there has been some sort of government involvement from tax breaks to direct cash. How the parties get to that point is negotiating between them. For Nenshi to come out and say it is done is poor leadership and political grandstanding, I guess he can go back to council today and ask for another vote on secondary suites in our neigbourhoods.
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I'll take the cities assessment over an ambitious flames ownership groups
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These costs in fact DO pertain directly to the arena as the area would need to be cleaned, transit and roadways would need to be altered, etc. These are very real issues that need money to be addressed, public money, as the Calgary flames are not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars cleaning up creosote and fixing crowchild
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You seem to be extremely misinformed from the costs involved, to the benefit of an arena(hint: there is none
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forb...yers-lose/amp/) to the very simple fact that public infrastructure is paid with public dollars and that money, when not budgeted, has to come from somewhere(your property taxes that you seem so upset with already)