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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Are these protesters violently rebelling against conservatives in general? or just the ones who hold specific views?

That's the issue, they are rebelling, to varying degrees, against having to hear from people (or even having other people on campus hear from people) whose views they find odious. They're not just white supremacists, they're people like Murray, or people like Rice, or people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or people like Greg Lukianoff. Those last two aren't even conservatives by any rational definition of the term.

Do we know that all of the protesters are liberals?

Leaving aside the point that I don't see these people as anything resembling "liberal" and using instead "left wing"... Yes? Unless you have some instance you're aware of where campus Republicans have attempted to prevent a talk from a left-wing speaker from taking place using these mob tactics. I'm not aware of any such thing happening, and if it did, I've little doubt it would be reported on.

The problem I see with the entire debate is that peaceful protest is wonderful and a key part of our culture. I disagree with the blocking of the doors or the violence that eventually erupts, but people like yourself and peter VERY conveniently fall into the comfortable categorization of the problem being "liberals" or "the left" or whatever, and not of the much more direct issues of resorting to physical violence.

Physical violence is definitely a part of it, and as I say, I'm not aware of this stemming from groups you'd call "right wing", with one exception - a Milo supporter shooting an antifa person at yet another one of these things designed to shut down a speech on campus. Which is part of the point here - if you try to silence people, violence is the endgame. Inevitably. The decision point is we either resolve our differences by letting everyone have their say and the best ideas win out, or we kill each other. Conversation or violence, take your pick. Those are the only options.

categorization as a left-wing issue is disingenuous and deserving of the the laziest of rebuttals (which is why you find you're not "getting anywhere").

According to my PM inbox I wasn't getting anywhere because I was arguing with a troll, but anyway, it is a left wing issue these days. It's not solely a left wing issue, but it used to be almost exclusively a right-wing issue when the right wing (i.e. Christian conservatives) formed the moral majority of society. That's no longer the case, and now that the left clearly have the cultural credibility of being presumed right in many contexts - campus being one - to enforce their moral view and eliminate dissent rather than confronting it with the ideas that have won prevalence to begin with.

when conservatives get called out for being racist, they panic and vote for Trump or cry foul.

If I get called a racist I'm likely to cry foul, because I'm not a racist. It's a knee-jerk reaction among many people these days, as if it's a cheat code to win any argument.

Often on campus, I see the anti-abortion people with their blown-up pictures of dead fetuses. You know what else I almost always see? Someone protesting by holding their own sign, or standing in front of the image, or professing their pro-choice stance to the anti-abortion sign holder. This is protest. This is good.

I'd agree, but there is an absolutely huge body of examples, whether you're aware of them or not, of such clubs being de-funded and forced into obscurity by campus groups and the administration. The back and forth you describe, where both sides are represented, isn't what many of the left-leaning groups who have the power to enforce their views want. They just don't want to hear from opponents. They are blockaded, at every turn, from spreading an anti-abortion message - and here's where I put the required shibboleth that I'm pro choice, in case people are getting the wrong idea here.

My opinion: people see only what they want to see, and conservatives love the confirmation bias that a news report on a left-wing protest turned ugly presents. Love it all you want.

What are you talking about? I'm not a conservative.