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Originally Posted by peter12
I have said this many times but I wouldn't call myself a conservative.
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You may try and say that, but the reality is that you are conservative through and through. Your words say so and your actions say so. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, thinks like a duck...
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As for Murray, the guy's views are pretty well within research mainstream. Anyone ever heard of James Flynn?
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No, they aren't. Just because you want to toss out another name of a guy who believes much of the same theory does not mean that research is within the mainstream. Both are on the fringe because their work is considered so controversial and contrary to other studies. They both intertwine way too much philosophy into a psychological studies, which doesn't pass rigor of most IRBs these days. While interesting points of discussion for many reasons, including the ethics and efficacy of work, their work remains controversial and on the fringe of accepted theory.
Let's not derail this thread any further with this. Neither scientist is relevant to the Trump administration or the fallout of their policies. If you want to discuss the research of these two please take it to the political philosophy thread.