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photon · 02-20-2017, 10:27 PM

If Russia had interfered with Canadian elections would Canadians just shrug and go on with their day? Well maybe, that would be typically Canadian... but it's still kind of shocking that people in the US seem to have just.. moved on.

A week before Michael T. Flynn resigned as national security adviser, a sealed proposal was hand-delivered to his office, outlining a way for President Trump to lift sanctions against Russia.

Mr. Flynn is gone, having been caught lying about his own discussion of sanctions with the Russian ambassador. But the proposal, a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker trying to rise in a political opposition movement shaped in part by Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort.

At a time when Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia, and the people connected to him, are under heightened scrutiny — with investigations by American intelligence agencies, the F.B.I. and Congress — some of his associates remain willing and eager to wade into Russia-related efforts behind the scenes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/u...ne-russia.html

The Senate does seem to be taking it a bit more seriously though.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/senator...director-comey

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15X0OE

EDIT: And Trump's lawyer doesn't seem to have been consistent with what he's saying to different news outlets.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump...et-russia-doc/

02-20-2017, 10:27 PM	#4575
photon The new goggles also do nothing. Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Calgary Exp:	If Russia had interfered with Canadian elections would Canadians just shrug and go on with their day? Well maybe, that would be typically Canadian... but it's still kind of shocking that people in the US seem to have just.. moved on. A week before Michael T. Flynn resigned as national security adviser, a sealed proposal was hand-delivered to his office, outlining a way for President Trump to lift sanctions against Russia. Mr. Flynn is gone, having been caught lying about his own discussion of sanctions with the Russian ambassador. But the proposal, a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker trying to rise in a political opposition movement shaped in part by Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort. At a time when Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia, and the people connected to him, are under heightened scrutiny — with investigations by American intelligence agencies, the F.B.I. and Congress — some of his associates remain willing and eager to wade into Russia-related efforts behind the scenes. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/u...ne-russia.html The Senate does seem to be taking it a bit more seriously though. http://www.rollcall.com/news/senator...director-comey http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15X0OE EDIT: And Trump's lawyer doesn't seem to have been consistent with what he's saying to different news outlets. http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump...et-russia-doc/ __________________ Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position. But certainty is an absurd one.