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Old 02-13-2017, 09:12 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
It's not religious, it's cultural. There are cultures that are decades or even centuries behind Canada in the treatment of women. It baffles me why that's considered a controversial observation.

Have you ever been to a country in the Middle East or North Africa? Outside a few tourist sites or liberal enclaves, a Western woman will be routinely creeped by local men. Oggled. Leered at. Manueovered into positions so men can look up their skirt. Sometimes groped. In many conservative cultures around the world, Western women are considered shameless sluts. Their revealing clothes. The fact they go out in the presence of single men without a chaperone or family member. A drunk woman is regarded as little more than a prostitute.

Of course there will be problems when men raised in cultures like that encounter our progressive liberality. In countries like Germany and Denmark it isn't unusual for women to sunbath in public parks wearing bras, or go topless at beaches. Not anymore. Today, women report being less comfortable going partially clothed in public because of the leering or dirty looks from men from much more conservative cultures.

The clash of civilization narrative is alarmist nonsense. The Islamic world isn't at war with the West for the future of the world. But there is very much a clash of cultures where the extraordinarily liberal cultures of the West come into contact with far more traditional and misogynist cultures from other parts of the world. It's wilfully naive to pretend otherwise.

I've been to several countries in the Middle East, where have you been? Your entire post is nonsense.
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