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Old 02-12-2017, 10:42 AM   #541
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
Nice spin at an attempt to answer my question, I'm guessing you're a lawyer or a social worker, those bad asses you weren't scared of was because it was in a controlled atmosphere where little could go wrong, how about trying to stay calm,cool and collect in there environment? I had to in my former life as a cop! out of the drug dealers, likely murderers, bikers and the "crazy's"(schizophrenics) the crazy's were the most feared,turn your back and get stabbed with a pen or hit in the back of the head. and oh do they lie! people think they are stupid but wow schizophrenics are great with lies and deceit.

And you're right Baker(Li) is not a dog, Dogs don't cut of heads with knives and chew on them to freak people out.

I would love to know if Li killed one of your family members would you be ok with this decision but I can tell you wouldn't be honest with the answer.

I'm done with this thread, It's now a waste of time, I have my opinion and it's clearly wrong according to the Canadian courts.
I suppose your policing background assisted you in your guess that I am a lawyer or social worker.

While I am tempted to respond with "oh, haha you are a cop, obviously you think the way you do" instead I will respond to what you are saying.

I am not engaging in the false analogy to a dog. They do not have human cognitive function, verbal or written communication ability, and never mind opening the can of worms that they are property and have no status in law under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

My answer to what if Baker killed one of my family? I assume I would be completely filled with hate and anger for a considerable length of time. If despair didn't get the better of me and I managed not to commit suicide, I don't know if I would ever be able to even remotely look at the issue rationally and objectively ever again. I would therefore be glad that in a society governed by the rule of law I would not get to make decisions regarding what should happen to him because I would likely make decisions in self interest and not what makes the most sense for society as a whole.

And I still hold out hope I would be able to get past my grief. I've seen it happen. I've had family members of murdered people speak to me with kindness and thank me for the job I have done...so no matter how outraged you want to be on their behalf, again thankfully they have their own world views.

That's honest. Accept that or don't.

You are not wrong that many of my interactions are in controlled environments, but lots are not. The 'crazies' as you refer to them are sadly often in and out of the criminal justice system. When I encounter them in the streets I often say hello and ask them how they are doing. Haven't been stabbed yet. Could it happen? Sure it could. But again over 400 deaths every year in car accidents in Alberta alone. I roll those dice virtually every single day as well.
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