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Old 02-11-2017, 10:04 PM   #518
Cecil Terwilliger
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I had a massively long post to type based on a long discussion I just had with a family member who treats schizophrenics just like Vincent Li but safari crashed and it's gone.

Basic gist is that they wouldn't have released him if he didn't show extreme dedication to maintaining his medication and his ongoing care with a regular visits to his doctors. And that if he disappeared they could potentially either file a missing persons or would have sufficient reason to check in on him due to his medical history. It is unlikely they wouldn't be able to justify putting him in involuntary care, even if just for a short period of time for an evaluation, based on the fact that his schizophrenia has been proven to be a danger to both himself and others in the past. Obviously this is based on limited knowledge of his exact diagnosis but given the severity of his previous issues it would seem weird not to.

The big thing I got out of the conversation though was how pessimistic we all are about our justice system. As if this guy isn't getting top level care from a team of professionals. And presumably he wants to live a normal life too and along with his dedication with maintaining his care for the last eight years, knows the only way that that will continue is if he maintains his care.

It's almost as if people saying he's a danger because he doesn't have to take his medication think he wants to hear demons and murder people, which is asinine because the medication works very well and there aren't a lot of logical reasons as to why he'd stop. The medication is very effective and it would seem odd for him to want to stop if he likes being normal, which he probably does.

Large portions of the general public appear to think that they just let him go free and having set up absolutely no support system for him to maintain ongoing care. In fact they almost certainly wouldn't have released him if they didn't think that the chances of him maintaining his care and his medication were almost an absolute certainty.

Also I wanted to mention, he's probably not taking pills he's probably getting a monthly injection. It's much easier to monitor and much harder to miss taking. And if he did stop taking his medication for any reason, it would be unlikely that he'd become violent very quickly, but he would not be able to hide his schizophrenic symptoms. They'd know pretty quickly. He would likely not be very good, or even able, to hide his symptoms.

There was so much more interesting information I had typed out but it all got erased and I can't remember all of it. Basically this guys gonna be a social pariah and going to be scrutinized by his community, the police, doctors etc. for the rest of his life. And his standard of living going forward isn't going to be the best.

My relative said she's treated multiple people very similar sounding symptoms to Vincent, and by that I mean people who heard voices from demons etc and telling them to do violent things. First she said it's more common for the voices to tell them to do self harm not to harm others. Second is that she's had patients that did very violent things, got treatment, took the medication for the rest of their lives because they wanted normal lives and ended up living relatively normal life afterwards. But it's hard because the effects of schizophrenia on the brain are permanent and even though meds would prevent relapses he may never be as sharp as he once was. He may struggle to live alone or get a job, not that anyone would hire him, and will probably need a lot of support going forward.


Ok that turned out pretty long anyway.

TLDR probably shouldn't worry too much, he's getting good care and isn't likely to stop.

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