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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
What? Of course if people think we should change the law and remove the rights of an innocent person because they feel he is a threat, then bringing up people who are higher threats and free is relevant.
Come on GGG, you're better than that. There's no statistics for him. There was one person is Manitoba found NCR who went on to kill again. He was 16 and released after 4 months, he didn't even have schizophrenia. Provide statistics on people found NCR due to schizophrenia, who have been treated for 8 years and been deemed a non-threat and then we can talk about the stats of him....Given the advances in medical treatment we should also be talking about people who have been released relatively recently. Of course I'll throw you a bone and just say in general.
Yeah, no. Even if we believed that, there are no statistics of relevance that could possibly be used.
If you actually wanted to use stats with respect to Li's case, the actual conclusion, outside of "not enough data," would be very low.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3933385/ |
Very few are asking for a law change. Most disagree with the assessment of the threat level.
There are statistics in Canada for those NCRd. 4/1800 committed murder in a 3yr period or something like that. It's in the thread here. That is the best data we have. We are relying on experts who aren't being forced to put error bars on their decisions.
The experts did not answer they key question:
What is the probability that he will kill again, what is the error range in that assessment. There answer was just not significant. That is not a sufficient risk assessment. If you built a pipeline with that kind of risk assessment it would not be approved.