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Old 02-10-2017, 10:49 PM   #379
Oling_Roachinen
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Is that a risk that we should be taking as a society?
Yes, that is a risk our society needs to take. Here's the reason he is out. The only reason he is out:

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Originally Posted by Criminal Code 672.54(a)
where a verdict of not criminally responsible on account of mental disorder has been rendered in respect of the accused and, in the opinion of the court or Review Board, the accused is not a significant threat to the safety of the public, by order, direct that the accused be discharged absolutely;
Read it. Then read it again. You need to comprehend how important that this section of our Criminal Code is and you have to understand this is what makes Canada great. First is the importance for Canada to recognize that a person with mental illnesses may not be responsible for their actions. If someone is not responsible for their actions, how can they be guilty of them? If they are not guilty, then they are innocent. Only some backwards country can deem someone to be guilty of an action they had no control over (and those countries exist). Finally, if an innocent person is not a threat to society, they must be discharged. How could anyone be against that and support Canada? You'll never ever hear me say anything like this about anything else that I disagree with someone on, but to anyone who doesn't think an innocent person who is not a significant threat to society should be free needs to get the #### out of Canada. They clearly have no idea what it means to be Canadian and clearly do not believe in the Canadian Justice System. Find some other country where you can get your jollies off on taking the rights away of innocent people.

Now of course the caveat with Li is some people believe he is still a significant threat, against the expert and Criminal Boards opinion. And I understand that. But meh. The stats clearly don't back that up and they have significantly less understanding and knowledge on Li and his mental illness than those that made the decision. It's ignorance, nothing more in my opinion.

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If he at some point starts reducing his medication schedule or stops taking them altogether and ends up killing another person, what do we say to the family members of the victim as we look them in the eye?
Or what if he doesn't? What if he continues to takes his meds? What if he never harms another person? God forbid, what if the experts were right? Should we prevent him from returning to his own country of China? Should he never be free to see his own family? To be continued to be subjected to a loss of freedom? When he is innocent of any wrongdoing?

What if that schizophrenic roaming the streets downtown who's probably not on meds does something? Should he be monitored indefinitely? Locked away? What about that impoverished addicted teen aboriginal who was convicted of a crime, should he be locked away for ever? I mean, statistically he has a far far far greater chance of harming someone in the future than Li.
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Also, what kind of message does this case send to anyone out there who might be thinking of committing a murder and then trying to get off with NCR diagnosis?
Meh, just go for murder two, you'll be out in 10 years anyways and won't have to go through the hell that is the mental facility. That's assuming you're actually convicted anyways.

This is really not a concern.

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I guess my overall question here is why should we let our compassion and forgiveness for this person get in the way of doing what is best for society as a whole?
What's best for society as a whole is clearly and unequivocally, allowing innocent people the proper freedom they deserve when they are no longer deemed a significant threat.
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