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Old 02-08-2017, 11:14 PM   #3205
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Originally Posted by rubecube View Post
Not sure how clubs are managed at Berkeley but at most universities the clubs receive funding from the SU, which receives its money from SU fees, so yeah, the students are paying for it either way.
All I can find is that $7000 was paid for by the Republican Party club at Berkeley to have security. No speaking fees. Near as I can tell, the students that paid for it are the ones who wanted him there. In the end, its kinda funny there are issues with cost of having him, yet none of those concerns seem to be directed at what the school has incurred due to the riot. In fact, they are turned away as mere glorification of material things.

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I've already said I thought these particular protests were stupid in a previous post. That doesn't mean I can't be in favour of civil disobedience as a general principle in other situations. I was mostly pointing out its effectiveness in this situation.
Of course it was effective, the place was on fire.

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And, as I noted earlier, it's hard to come down morally against property destruction as a political statement when the country glorifies it as part of its origin mythology.
Morals have nothing to do with being against destruction of property. Didn't we just have a muppet run for president who was rallying against the rising costs of post secondary? There is no justification for this, whatever your idealistic take on the morality surrounding property, because in the real world it's gonna cost someone. Amazing to be concerned with the cost that may be associated with having Milo speak at their campus, yet the cost of property? Pffft who cares. Being a petulant, brainless victim of group think is the only justification here. No one asserts moral value to objects, however in the end someone pays for it. The students. Brilliant. So why do it? Acting out on primal urges? Its akin to a baby throwing his dish because he doesn't like whipped peas.

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Also, are you really going to trivialize the type of crap that Milo was pulling on Twitter or the type of garbage he spouts on a consistent basis like that? This is part of the reason, IMO, the left has begun to escalate things more in the last 4-5 years.
I cant control his speech, and it's not up to me to denounce it nor have I trivialized it. For every useless, baiting, divisive post you can find on the right, I can just as easily find some quote of someone with left leaning ideologies saying kill white men, ect. I think we could both agree that both sides of differing political ideology need to take a serious 5. Meet in the middle people, its a happy place. It's warm, and we have snapple.

Lets use another example of divisive political speech. Justin Trudeau said Canada belongs to Quebec. Do you know how offensive myself and others find that statement? Do you see people showing up at town halls starting fires and hitting liberals in the head with bike chains? No. Thicker skin. Perspective. The alt-left could use both.
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