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Originally Posted by GGG
I don't think you can compare Li to another criminals. If he was a criminal we wouldn't be talking about this for another 12 years or so and then he would be on parole for life.
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We can't compare him to other criminals because he is not a criminal. But my point was, if people are so concerned with the society's safety, pretty much every single violent offender released is a much higher risk to society. Anyone concerned with Li, should be terrified of the amount of ex-cons we have in Canada...
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Originally Posted by GGG
We also don't have a good method of preventing criminals from continuing to commit crimes.
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Sure we do. Lock them up and throw away the key. Or even in the study presented it showed that most re-offenses occur after monitoring ends.... If we no longer care about individual freedoms and are willing to sacrifice rights for safety, then let's at least be smart about it and start with the the demographic with the far higher odds of committing a violent offense.
Like I said, I'm not quite buying the argument about wanting to protect society and public safety. If that was the real issue, every single Joe-Blow convicted of a violent offense should have much higher backlash than Li. A federal offender convicted of a violent offense has a near 20% chance of re-offending.
If released unconditionally (and therefore no longer deemed a significant threat by the experts and Review Board), what do you think are the odds Li goes off his medicine? And what are the odds if he does that he experiences psychosis without getting help? And what are the odds that he experiences psychosis without getting help manifests itself into a violent offense? Most psychotic episodes don't result in 'real danger.' It's more likely he starts talking incoherently than it would be of him lashing out violently. Realistically, it's more likely that he harms himself than anyone else.
There's simply no possibility of him being released unconditionally if the "chance" of him committing a violent offense is greater than 20%. And yet every single day, who knows how many violent offenders are being released in Canada with that statistic..
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Originally Posted by GGG
The loss of liberty of Li (in terms of ensuring he gets his meds) is reasonable in comparison to the amount of safety added to society.
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I disagree. An innocent person no longer deemed a significant threat to society has no reasonable "loss of liberty."