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1qqaaz · 01-28-2017, 02:31 PM

So far, neither Huska nor Gulutzan have been any good at developing players. Both are Treliving hires, if I'm not mistaken.

During Huska's first year as coach, nearly everyone on the team regressed offensively. Hardly anyone from that team is still a Flames prospect. No AHL call-up has been remarkably successful since Huska has been the coach. It's looking like the Heat might make the playoffs this year for the first time under Huska. Hopefully he's learning from his AHL experience, at least in terms of prospect development.

During Gulutzan's first year as coach, most of the young players have also regressed offensively. None of the AHL call-ups have succeeded.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the Sutters is also in charge of player development. I'm thinking some of the blame should also be on him. It's been awhile since we've seen any success. But he was not a Treliving hire.

I don't think the drafting is the main problem. Let's take the 2011 draft for an example:

Baertschi: Looked good after being drafted. We developed him poorly, then traded him. Now he looks like a good player.
Granlund: Much the same as Baertschi. Did great in the World Juniors, and even did well during his rookie year in the AHL. Then he also stopped improving. Traded, and now looks good.
Wotherspoon: Also looked good after being drafted. He had a +40 on his junior team and played well in the World Juniors. Not bad for a second round pick. But now, he has improved very little in the AHL. It's no secret that the Flames scratched him for long periods of time.
Gaudreau: Complete steal of a draft pick. Was almost entirely developed in the USHL. Never touched the AHL.
Brossoit: Looked good for a 6th round pick. Traded, but still a decent prospect/NHL backup.

All 5 have now played in the NHL this year. All 5 of them were great picks, but our poor prospect development resulted in many lost opportunities.

Player development is complex, and it's related to many parts of the organization. Only Treliving is involved in all aspects of it, so he should be held accountable. I agree that it's still a bit early to call Treliving a bad GM because of the lack of development. But if things continue to go on like this, we should start to ask more questions.

01-28-2017, 02:31 PM	#448
1qqaaz Franchise Player Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Indiana Exp:	So far, neither Huska nor Gulutzan have been any good at developing players. Both are Treliving hires, if I'm not mistaken. During Huska's first year as coach, nearly everyone on the team regressed offensively. Hardly anyone from that team is still a Flames prospect. No AHL call-up has been remarkably successful since Huska has been the coach. It's looking like the Heat might make the playoffs this year for the first time under Huska. Hopefully he's learning from his AHL experience, at least in terms of prospect development. During Gulutzan's first year as coach, most of the young players have also regressed offensively. None of the AHL call-ups have succeeded. If I'm not mistaken, one of the Sutters is also in charge of player development. I'm thinking some of the blame should also be on him. It's been awhile since we've seen any success. But he was not a Treliving hire. I don't think the drafting is the main problem. Let's take the 2011 draft for an example: Baertschi: Looked good after being drafted. We developed him poorly, then traded him. Now he looks like a good player. Granlund: Much the same as Baertschi. Did great in the World Juniors, and even did well during his rookie year in the AHL. Then he also stopped improving. Traded, and now looks good. Wotherspoon: Also looked good after being drafted. He had a +40 on his junior team and played well in the World Juniors. Not bad for a second round pick. But now, he has improved very little in the AHL. It's no secret that the Flames scratched him for long periods of time. Gaudreau: Complete steal of a draft pick. Was almost entirely developed in the USHL. Never touched the AHL. Brossoit: Looked good for a 6th round pick. Traded, but still a decent prospect/NHL backup. All 5 have now played in the NHL this year. All 5 of them were great picks, but our poor prospect development resulted in many lost opportunities. Player development is complex, and it's related to many parts of the organization. Only Treliving is involved in all aspects of it, so he should be held accountable. I agree that it's still a bit early to call Treliving a bad GM because of the lack of development. But if things continue to go on like this, we should start to ask more questions.