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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Well if you are arguing we have an asset thin organization, you will find no objection here. But it seems like you are trying to pin all the responsibility on Feaster, Sutter et al and I'm not sure current management is so much different. They have had the benefit of super high draft picks, which the aforementioned never had. And you ignore some of the assets (Brodie, Backlund, Gio) that did carry over.
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I'm talking about what they started with when the new management took over. And I'm not ignoring assets - I've simply not detailed every asset they had. But if you compared what they DID have with what other organizations had - you would see they had next to nothing.
I have a hard time blaming Feaster as I think he wasn't allowed to trigger the re-build. He was following orders. Sutter did a tremendous amount of damage with some real head scratcher deals in his tenure. Dealing off core pieces without getting core pieces back.
But the blame dates back to basically the post Fletcher era, when, for literally decades the organization eroded their asset base to where we are now.
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Has current management traded away picks? In 2 drafts, BT has traded away a first and 3 seconds. Maybe you like the return on those trades. Well I liked the Jokinen trade when it happened. A lot.
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Surely you see the difference in trading for a young top dman (Hamilton) as opposed to an aging veteran (Jokinen). BT traded 3 of those picks for Hamilton. That's not an asset diminishing deal.
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
You mention the lack of return for aging veterans. That is certainly disappointing but is there an example of a winning organization that was built on the returns for it's aging stars? I can't think of any. Hindsight is great but if you are supposed to trade away veterans every year you're not contending, why in the world are guys like Brouwer and Giordano on this team? Their trade value declines every year.
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No team was built on the returns of aging stars but if you don't turnover part of your core into something that matters - you are screwed.
And you can't have a team full of youngsters - you need some vets like Gio and Brouwer. The Oilers have demonstrated that.