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Originally Posted by BrownDrake
GM's don't get fired or not extended after 3 years during a rebuild unless they have made tremendous errors or have proven extreme incompetence.
The average tenure of NHL GM's is over 7 years I think.
Silly and baseless speculation on Friedmans' part, probably going to cost him some access or credibility with this organization.
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See, I'm almost on board with you on this in that I keep reading through the synopsis, and it feels like Friedman's making a real stretch here based on the fact that halfway through the season Treliving isn't signed.
Like when I read this synopsis by Cecil which is pretty accurate to the interview I heard this morning
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oesn't think they're gonna be sellers, not how they operate as an organization
- Pinder brings up Wideman and Fried says he's been on the block for a while he thinks
- Engelland is not a core piece so selling him wouldn't make them sellers
- Nashville has woken up
- thinks Flames'll stay the course
- Heard some teams had called about Bennett on Thurs/Fri
- Tre said no not avail
- Knows somebody who knows the Flames org and they're comfortable to do things differently
- Flames say it isn't ominous that they won't sign Tre to extension yet
- But Friedman says it is hard to see it that way because 31 teams don't do that
- Doesn't know the outcome
- Even if flames make playoffs, not 100% convinced Tre will be GM next year
- Doesn't think Tre will make desperate stupid moves at deadline to save his job
- Pinder follows up and says that the pressure may force Tre to make desperate moves, Fried responds by saying that's not how he operated in Arizona
- panic trade hurts Tre's future, won't do that, hurt chances of new job if necessary
- Doesn't think Maloney is angling for job if Flames don't sign Tre
- Boomer brings up meddling ownership but makes it clear he's just repeating other peoples' rumours and that he doesn't believe them but notes that the meddling thing will only get more attention
- Friedman says "I realized this because other guys were saying to me "whats going on there?"'
- Says it is a "bad look" referring to Tre not having a contract
- Lots of people would say Flames have a good looking roster, wouldn't have trouble finding a GM
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there's nothing in there that indicates anything solid and it feels like Friedman is making a massive leap based on a contract, and then it feels like he's piling on rumors and stuff from past conversations and nearly presenting them as breathless fact. The whole meddling owners, which we haven't seen any sign of since they did the management shuffle that send King upstairs.
This is actually a pretty poor interview on Friedman's part and feels like he he's trying to connect a lot of things that maybe aren't connected. I've thought about this all day, and there are some questions that Friedman doesn't know
1) Is the contract thing on Treliving's side or the Flames?
2) How many teams have made it a habit to sign extentions in advance and when do they on average do it, because I can remember announcements of GM's being extended in April and May.
3) Can he give us any specific proof of ownership meddling since Burke moved into office?
4) Are you repeated dissertations that your not 100% sure that Tre will be back, based on fact or a source, or something that you're pulling out of your butt?
I actually think that this is actually a clear definition of sensationalist reporting without a lot of facts to back it up, and its poor work compared to what Elliot used to do, this isn't a story that feels like its based on the so called unknown sources, its based on one thing and that's no contract extension at the halfway point of the season. I also think that its a incredibly damaging story to the Flames and that's why I'm concerned about it, its right on line with a gossip column and that's actually shameful.
I personally think or expect that Elliot has probably damaged his access to the Flames based on this story because it seems to be very sloppy, and almost mean spirited.
But that's my two cents, I think we're reading too much into it, and we don't know the facts, and it seems like Elliot didn't get all the facts but threw it out there anyways.