[Igottago]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

This team, like it or not, is miles ahead of last years team. No, they aren't quite as entertaining, but it's insane to argue that they aren't much better. The losses this year anger us more because we're actually playing meaningful games.

Gulutzan is on pace to have the Flames finish with a better record than Hartley did in three of his four seasons. Gulutzan is hardly a mistake on Trelivings part. This season is a "disaster" (and I use that term loosely because it really isn't a disaster at all) because Johnny Gaudreau, TJ Brodie, Sam Bennett and to a lesser extent Brian Elliott, Sean Monahan and Mark Giordano have been flat out terrible. Blame the coach all you want, but at the end of the day it has to fall on the players. Maybe they have a down year this year, can you imagine where they'd be if those guys could figure it out?

They're showing progress as a team this year. If that means individual stats aren't as good then I'll take it. Let's just be happy we're cheering for wins for a playoff spot rather than losses for draft positioning.

And to answer the OP, Treliving has done a pretty good job in my books. A few small mistakes but nothing I would consider to be job threatening.

Do you not find it at all interesting that pretty much all of the best players on the team are not performing as expected? One or two guys having down years...sure. The entire core? Guys that were coming off great seasons last year...how is that even possible?

The coaches have done some good things but if the entire core of best players isn't performing there's has to be something not working.