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Originally Posted by Blaster86
I don't even know where to begin with this post. This is quite frankly one of the most intellectually dishonest things I've ever seen posted. And it fails utterly as a means to try and create the illusion of others being hypocrites to anyone who has followed this thread.
They are saying that for you to speak towards what others see as their identity and who they are is not acceptable and that some people, especially those in uniform, tend to see it as a part of their personal identity and who they are. That is all they have said. They have not argued that this identity deserves special treatment in anyway, or that you should not have similar expectations for these people based on this identity. Just that it is.
The mental gymnastics you've had to do to make the argument you just made is nothing short of gold-medal-at-the-Olympics level.
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This bugged me, but I wanted to respectfully explain my issue.
I felt it was hypocritical because of this:
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None of these things engage identity politics. None of it requires that you be thought of first by virtue of your gender, race, sexual orientation or anything else. It requires that you be thought of as a person, whose life should be theirs to control free of interference to the greatest degree manageable, to make your own decisions rather than having someone else make them for you. That is the entire point; it doesn't matter if you're gay or black or a woman or East Indian or bisexual, the only group identity that matters is homo sapiens.
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I think it's absolutely an instance of hypocrisy to state that "homo sapien" is the only identity that matters, while all others do not, and follow that by defending the existence and importance of an identity you just said did not matter:
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Why on Earth do you think this? Tons of people take pride in their profession and consider it a big part of who they are as people.
I'd imagine that's especially so for first responders, and it's certainly the case that we want members of our police forces to be able to take pride in how they do their work.
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Is "pride in your work" and "identity" the same thing? Not to me. But this was the response to me saying that "police officer" wasn't an identity (and I didn't mention having pride in your work at all) so I'd bet they think they're linked. It really didn't take dishonestly or mental gymnastics, sorry it made you go off.
"I'm gay/a woman/black" - "No identities matter, only identify as human!"
"I'm a police officer!" - "That's an important identity! I identify as my job too!"
