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Originally Posted by dobbles
OK, we'll keep going with this I guess!
The original post was that Trump spoke about giving the people the country back. Turd pointed out that he had lost the popular vote. Then he got jumped on.
To me, the initial observation by Turd was spot on. Saying a phrase like 'giving the people the country back' implies that he got elected to make changes that the majority want. However in this case, he was elected by the minority. So it was funny.
Regardless of my qualms with Trump and his awfulness as a human being, in this case, the beef is actually with the electoral college. It is antiquated and should be abolished immediately.
I guess the shortest way to say it is that I think Trump lacks the mandate to make statements like the original one quoted. He lacks that mandate because he won only because the electoral college is stupid. That doesn't imply that he shouldn't be president, just that the rules to become president are broken.
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Here is where I disagree. Just because an election was close doesn't mean a president doesn't have a mandate. He has all the mandate given to him by the constitution and since they also have the republicans the house and senate they have additional power. The ability to pass legislation is a mandate.
Also +/- 3milliom votes doesn't materially change the "mandate your implying. The statements only 47% of people voted for him or 51% of people voted for him is not material to the mandate argument.
Therefore I feel the statement is said to delegitamize his presidency which it shouldn't. It's also one of the red herrings that the media and protesters will chase that can bear no fruit.
Focused attack on policy and how he is not benefitting the republican Base and working class whites is what is required to defeat him in 2 and 4 years.