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Old 01-20-2017, 10:55 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch View Post
I think that there's an important point here. I believe that in a lot of ways, Hillary lost because of the Hollywood and other elites, and when she was viewed as inbed with these celbrities and her attack on people that weren't with her as deplorable she came across as entitled and out of touch. when combined with a voter base that really seemed ready for a protest vote she lost.

Personally if I was running for public office, I'd be telling Matt Damon and Susan Saranden and Matt Damon and all the others to shut the Fork up until after the election.
I stayed quiet after the election in part out of shock, but in part because I like to read what others say instead of blathering on about my own thoughts so I never gave my thoughts on why Clinton lost. To me, it was more about her not having a message. Her campaign seemed to just be wait for Trump to alienate everyone and mock him.

I often posted in the pre-election threads with anecdotes from all the red state people that surround me. And one of the things that always was apparent was that Trumps messages worked. Harping on the emails became a nice meme here but it was was they felt was important. So many could tell me all about crooked Hilary but not much else about politics. They could tell me all about Benghazi but nothing else about international issues.

So while I think that the Hollywood thing was a big factor, I think most of the reason we are now talking about President Trump (barf) is because he, and republicans in general, stay on message better. Right now they are better campaigners. Personally, I feel that in 2 years after they have shown how terrible they are as leaders, it won't matter and we will see power shift the other way.
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