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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
So what's the solution? Walk me through this. What is being accomplished by putting up walls between the gay community and police besides nursing grievances? What tangible, measurable outcomes do you see, or hope to see from taking the stance BLM has taken?
But maybe I'm looking at things the wrong way. Rationally. Utilitarian. Maybe we're going through one of those periods when reason and sound judgement melt away, and people break into tribal packs to warm themselves around the fires of resentment and hate. Us. Them. Good. Bad. It won't accomplish anything. But I guess for some, accomplishing anything takes a back seat to group-feels and othering.
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Why did you quote me if you weren't going to bother answering my question? The point of the matter is that police officers as individuals are not being excluded from Pride, the police as a symbol of violence, hatred, and discrimination against the gay community are. What exactly is the problem with that? What exactly has the policing community done to show remorse for their past actions and continued actions against the gay community and PoC, other than the half-hearted PR stunt of wanting to be involved with Pride? What have they done to assure that they're taking meaningful steps to prevent future harm against these same people?
I also think there's a bit of a double-standard here. If say the Westboro Baptist Church suddenly came out and said "Nah, we're over that whole God hates fags business. Our bad. We'd like to march in your parade now," I kind of doubt there'd be an outcry over Pride excluding them.
EDIT: In before the "you're comparing WBC to the police," attempt to deflect from the question.