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Old 01-20-2017, 12:48 AM   #412
CliffFletcher
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Well he might have, if they weren't spraying him down with fire hoses and siccing German Shepherds on his gonads.
Yep, the police back then treated the black community far, far worse than it does to day. And yet MLK led a movement of peaceful resistance that overcame entrenched opposition to achieve tremendous progress. That's what moral stature can do for you. It's incredibly powerful.

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Also I find it hilarious that apparently MLK was the only Black civil rights activist and nothing any other activist did mattered or moved the needle at all.
Name some of them. Name their achievements.

Stokely Carmichael? Angela Davis? What did they actually accomplish, besides getting a bunch of people killed, getting Nixon elected (twice), and making some celebrity champagne socialists feel like revolutionaries for a couple years?

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Hypothetically speaking, if a hard right government somehow got into power in this country and started cracking down on anti-sodomy laws and other laws designed to discriminate against the gay community, do people truly believe that the police wouldn't go right back to raiding gay bars and cracking skulls?
So what's the solution? Walk me through this. What is being accomplished by putting up walls between the gay community and police besides nursing grievances? What tangible, measurable outcomes do you see, or hope to see from taking the stance BLM has taken?

But maybe I'm looking at things the wrong way. Rationally. Utilitarian. Maybe we're going through one of those periods when reason and sound judgement melt away, and people break into tribal packs to warm themselves around the fires of resentment and hate. Us. Them. Good. Bad. It won't accomplish anything. But I guess for some, accomplishing anything takes a back seat to group-feels and othering.
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